Kentucky Basketball Previews Houston
NCAA MEN’S REGIONAL SEMIFINALS AND FINALS: KANSAS CITY
March 28, 2019
John Calipari
PJ Washington
Reid Travis
Keldon Johnson
Kansas City, Missouri
THE MODERATOR: We have Reid Travis, Keldon Johnson, and PJ Washington on the dais. We’re ready for questions for all three gentlemen.
Q. PJ, let’s start with the big one. Are you going to play tomorrow and kind of what is your status?
PJ WASHINGTON: I’m trying to get back to play, but right now it’s up in the air.
Q. PJ, what has the last couple weeks been like? And I know you’re going to be bombarded with a lot of these questions, but what has the last week and a half been for you mentally and physically?
PJ WASHINGTON: I’m in a good place. I went to get checked out. The doctor said pretty much some good things. So I’m happy where I’m at, and I’m just trying to get better.
Q. I have a question for you Reid. So Kentucky is not a program known for having a lot of older players. Given that you’re a grad on the team, I wanted to know a little bit about what it’s like to have a little bit more of a leadership role, given your age? But this is your first tournament, what has that experience been like so far?
REID TRAVIS: It’s been a great experience so far. That was one of the things that attracted me to Kentucky was there wasn’t a lot of older guys. I felt it would be nice for me to have a younger team and kind of have my leadership presence and kind of just join that. It’s been great so far to learn from the younger guys and trying to use my lived experience through college basketball to be a leader and enjoy every game we’ve been playing so far in the tournament.
Q. PJ, are you going to try to practice today? And just are you able to walk then just in shoes? And I guess, how would you describe, I guess, your gait? Are you able to move around?
PJ WASHINGTON: I walked over here. That’s good. I don’t know yet. I’m thinking of giving it a go. It’s just in the air, like I said earlier.
Q. You posted that yesterday on Twitter of you kind of walking. Is that when you got the cast off yesterday? How does it feel in?
PJ WASHINGTON: That was the day after I got the cast off. It’s good. I feel good. It’s just about going out there and seeing if I can do stuff on the court.
Q. One more. Will you just warm up before the game and see if you can go and how much pain is there?
PJ WASHINGTON: I don’t know yet. I don’t know if — I been haven’t practicing. I’ve been — I haven’t put any pressure on it yet. I’ll go out there and see what I can do.
Q. Reid, just you guys obviously got through the first two rounds without PJ. But could you just describe how different a team are you without him in the lineup?
REID TRAVIS: Yeah, we’re very different team without him in the lineup. Obviously just look at his production, his leadership, the things that he does on the court for us, the way he can pass. He makes a lot of us a lot better.
When he’s in the game, just the rotations and the way that we move the ball, and defensively, he makes our team a lot better. Obviously we can get him back, I feel like we’ll be a lot stronger team.
Q. Reid, what have you guys seen out of Houston when you watched the video? They said they hadn’t looked at you guys until a couple days ago. What do you see out of them?
REID TRAVIS: The biggest thing is just the physicality. A big thing we’ve been working on in practice is just rebounding, just trying to box out. They’re a team that when they do shoot it, they’re all trying to chase it and get off and rebound and put it back. So for us a big part of the game plan is just finishing out possessions with a rebound and just really trying to match their physicality.
KELDON JOHNSON: Definitely agree with everything he said. Just being physical and just matching the intensity. We have to come out and do what we do and just play harder than them.
Q. Keldon, it hadn’t been too long ago that you were being recruited by Coach Cal. And I’m sure one of his biggest pitches was that he was going to make you a better player. How has coming to the University of Kentucky made you a better player this past year?
KELDON JOHNSON: Just — I mean, I stay in the gym with the coaches. I’m playing against great players everyday, and they just push me and the coaches stay on me regardless of the day. They always on me to push me to be a better — to be a better me each and every day. That’s basically what it is.
Q. Reid, I’ll follow-up on that question with you. How has specifically your relationship with Coach Cal made you a better player here at the University of Kentucky?
REID TRAVIS: Yeah. I’d say the biggest thing I take away is just the little nuances that he’s taught me in my game, that I can affect the game without scoring or just rebounding as far as blocking shots, defending multiple positions. These are all things I didn’t necessarily think about too much in my previous years in college, and when I got here, it was a big emphasis to him is that it’s not always about trying to throw up the biggest numbers but you can affect the game in so many ways. That starts with changing your body, changing the way you move. Those the are biggest things I changed in my game are the little things that don’t necessarily show up.
Q. Keldon, when you guys played Wofford, you guys mentioned they were a very good 3-point shooting team. Houston doesn’t appear to shoot it as well, but they’re tenacious defensively. What’s the give and take between Wofford and Houston guard-wise?
KELDON JOHNSON: Two different teams. We’ve got to respect whoever we have in front of us. We just going to take the game plan, go with it accordingly, and just go out there and do what we do.
THE MODERATOR: Anything else for the gentlemen from Kentucky?
Okay. Gentlemen, thank you very much and best of luck tomorrow.
Coach of Kentucky is here, John Calipari. We’re going to ask him to make a statement on his team being here in Kansas City and even then we’ll go to questions.
John, please.
JOHN CALIPARI: I just want to say, is PJ playing? Does anybody know here whether he’s playing? I don’t know. So we will see. That’s my statement. No questions?
THE MODERATOR: Very smart class.
Q. Coach, there has been so much talked about PJ. What has the last several days been like with getting the cast off, mentally and physically for him?
JOHN CALIPARI: I don’t know. He was up here. I imagine you asked him, but somebody said — he didn’t practice yesterday and they said, “Did you see him?”
Yeah, I saw him sitting on the sideline.
I have not seen him — he’s been on an ultra, ultra G, which takes his weight, lightens him up so he can get used to running.
Thank goodness the game is at 9:00. We have more time. It’s the first time I’ll ever say this. I wish it was at 10:00. But, you know, greatest thing for him is the doc said that you can’t hurt yourself. And if that were the case, I wouldn’t let him play.
Doc said, “You’re going to be in pain after the game if you do play, but you know how much pain can you deal with.”
He wants to play. Now, it’s can he play? We don’t know. If anybody is guessing, you know, we just don’t know yet.
Q. Following up on that, what will go into your decision about whether he plays or not, and how different of a team are you with PJ versus without?
JOHN CALIPARI: Well, it’s been awhile since we had PJ and Reid, like Reid was out for almost three weeks. And then we played with Reid and he together for two games, and then PJ has been out for literally two weeks.
So, it would be nice to have a full team, but this is what’s happened. Fate has intervened sometimes in our lives, some of it good and some of it bad. And then you look at it thinking this is bad, but it gave EJ and Nick a chance. When PJ went down, it gave us a chance to put Keldon at the 4 and it gave Jemarl Baker a chance to play.
So, in the end of the day, maybe it helped us. But, we’re not — if anybody in this tournament right now takes their best player off the court, they’re not going to be as good. I can spin it, you can spin it, you can say well, take your best player off the court and let’s play basketball. Like — we’re not as good without him. There’s no question.
Q. John, do you think he’ll practice today? Is that the plan or —
JOHN CALIPARI: I didn’t ask him. I kind of stay out of these decisions. Unless the doctor tells me he can hurt himself, then he wouldn’t have a decision to make. If this one — you ask me how will I make a decision? Probably be him. If he goes in and he’s 80 percent, then I won’t play him. If he goes in, he plays well and he says “sub me,” I’ll sub him. I’m ready to go. I’ll put him back in.
Q. You mentioned a little bit about how you’ve been playing with a lineup in the absence of PJ and Reid over past few weeks. Now that Reid is back, how has he and other members of the team stepped up during the first two games of the tournament?
JOHN CALIPARI: Part of our deal was to let’s survive so PJ gets a chance to play. This is an important time for all these kids. Like I don’t take that lightly, and I understand and respect these kids. What they go through in this tournament at this time with the social media, with what’s at stake for them individually, the clutter they hear.
This stuff is hard. And so we’re out there. The last two games we started four freshmen and made it even tougher. But, you know, I think that they survived, and now he gets a chance to perform.
Because he hadn’t played for a couple weeks, people may forget how good he is. He’s an All American. But in the interim Reid has done well. Now Reid has stepped up his game and the physicalness that he plays with. And EJ played 11 rebounds one game, and Nick is blocking shots. Jemarl Baker comes in and plays his butt off. All of a sudden, you know, we become a little different.
Let me just say this: Knowing Kelvin for as long as I have, what he’s done with the program, the culture that he’s created, if you don’t respect — one, his plays are really good. Obviously he can coach. They defend, they rebound, they share, they can shoot 3s. If you don’t respect them, you’re losing whether it’s us or anybody else.
I’m just — I’m amazed. 10, 12, 13 years ago, we were going to Houston to play, to see it where it is now, now it’s incredible what they’ve done. They’re players. They’re not afraid. They have a swagger about them. They play with unbelievable energy. They defend like crazy and they rebound every basketball they attempt to rebound. So, it’s going to be a hard game for us to win with PJ or without PJ.
Q. How much of this is a balancing between knowing he probably does want to play and wanting to win this game and also knowing if you’re going to make it further, you probably want or need him to be healthy?
JOHN CALIPARI: If he’s at 80 percent and I see it, I probably — I’ll say, “hey, man, let’s just wait. We’ll figure out if we can do this without you.”
If he’s terrific, I mean what I did with Reid, I asked Reid, “How many minutes did I play you when you came back?” He played 15, 18 minutes.
If PJ plays more than that, I would be stunned, surprised. If he doesn’t play at all, I would not be surprised. So, we’ll just laugh to see.
Q. You’re one of four SEC teams that made it to the Sweet 16. How much does that speak to kind of competitiveness in the conference?
JOHN CALIPARI: Let me go back to this, too. Vanderbilt lost their best player who they were building around, is going to be a top 7, 8, 10 pick in the draft.
Missouri lost their big guy early in the year. He would have also been a Top 10, 12 pick in the draft.
Those are two teams that slid because of those injuries. When you talk about that on top of the seven teams that made it and maybe one more could have, every game was a war. There were no easy games in our league for any team, which is why we benefited now.
I like to say that when you’re at Kentucky, a lot of type times teams have nothing to lose when they play you, not a thing to lose. At our place, they don’t think — nothing to lose.
The greatest thing — we have everything to lose. If we lose a game, oh, my goodness. We lose a home game, they got a list of who the next coach is going to be. It’s one of these six guys.
So, I say that in that in this tournament, what’s good, has something to lose. We have nothing — oh, yeah, you do. Your season ends.
We’re all in the same boat. You know, hopefully, again, our team understands how good, how well coached, how balanced, how deep Houston is, or it will be us going home.
THE MODERATOR: We are halfway through the session.
Q. This is your 10th year as head —
JOHN CALIPARI: 70. The dog years at Kentucky. Seven times ten is 70.
Q. During that time you’ve had eight Sweet 16s. I guess that’s 56 Sweet 16s. Not bad. But you’ve talked throughout this year about players coming to Kentucky and getting better.
I assume that you think you’re a better coach now than when you first appeared on campus. How has being the head coach at the University of Kentucky made you a better basketball coach?
JOHN CALIPARI: Well, let me — can I filibuster this one?
THE MODERATOR: Sure. It’s your time.
JOHN CALIPARI: Here is what’s changed for me personally: That first year I knew John Wall would leave. He was that good. I didn’t know who else would go.
I told John Wall, “Don’t you leave here by yourself. You take people with you.”
He took four other first rounders with him.
I was like, what just happened? So then everybody got mad and you can’t do this this way. And then we had another group come in, took us to a Final Four, and those four left. Brandon Knight, that crew. Then we have three freshmen start the next year and brand new team and we win the national title.
What it does when you’re changing teams like this, it keeps you curious. You have to be. You have to look and say how do we play with this team? What drills do we use? Do we invent new drills? We’re doing things with this team that we’ve never done with any other team because we had to. It does keep you younger. There’s no lesson plan year to year. It’s all new.
And then the other thing at Kentucky, it keeps you on your toes based on the fact that there’s an expectation you win every single game by 20. If you’re not winning every single game by 20, something is wrong. And if you — if you’re into reading all the stuff or listening to the people in the seats, you’ll be up there with them shortly.
It’s a different deal. I told this team, you guys have given me years back on my life coaching you, this team. I’ve had others that have added years to my life, okay, but it’s not this team. This team, they’ve tried, they listened. They’re gym rats. If I go in the office at 10:30 at night, they’re still in there I’ll have four guys in there. What are you doing?
So — here you better adapt to your team and you better figure out defensively and how do you play offensively? Like no one knows, because I don’t know until we start and we get through a season.
THE MODERATOR: We have time for three more questions.
Q. Coach, been a lot of the kind of underside of college basketball exposed here in the last year and a half with some of the investigations and wiretaps. What are your thoughts with where the sport is health-wise, and some of the things that have been kind of brought out, what can be done to fix some of those things?
JOHN CALIPARI: Some of the stuff that is out there, you know, I will say you knew there’s stuff that was going on but you’re surprised by some of it. But I think it’s a cleansing. You know, if you’re going to do something now, you’re going to get on the phone or you’re going to go meet with somebody and try to do something, you either got some chutzpah or you’re really stupid, like stupid. So I think it should be a cleansing. I think the NCAA now gets a chance to say, how do we deal with this stuff? They can clean the slate and start all over.
Q. Coach, how much of your team’s growth this year from start until now in your opinion has had to do with the Ashton Hagans and the role he’s played at both ends?
JOHN CALIPARI: He’s changed who we are. He shoots it better — look, tomorrow they’re not playing him. They are going to trap the post and leave Ashton. I’m telling you, he can shoot. How can a guy shoot 85 percent from the free throw line and then not shoot as well from the floor? I don’t get it. And I’m telling him, it’s mental. Get in the gym.
He’s in the gym because he started shooting — making shots in practice. I’m like, “You’ve been in the gym?”
They’re all laughing. “Yeah, he’s been over here 10:30 at night,” knowing when I get shots, I’m making them in this game.
His defense, his ability to physically get by people and create for his teammates., he’s made us different.
But, Tyler Herro is really good, like he’s really good. Brad Stevens and I were talking. He told his young son what he was most impressed with with Tyler, he gave up his offense to guard Magee. And have to run around with Magee and gave up his offense. And he was 2 for 11. Couldn’t make a shot, but he made two free throws because he’s got a will to win.
Keldon as a young player. Johnson, another one physically able to go and do the things. Again, when you look at this team, the bench, Immanuel Quickly, Jemari Baker, those guys are vital for us.
They got to keep the music going. Like when they go in, keep the music going. You’re shutting off the radio. Keep the music going. You — you can’t come in and turn it over for a layup down there or wide open 3 shooter there. You got to keep it going. You know what? They’re capable of that.
It’s not just Ashton. But I’ll be honest with you, he changed who we were.
THE MODERATOR: Final question quickly. Thank you.
Q. John, kind of a big picture question. Some talk about the NBA wanting the one-and-done rule going away in two, three years. How would you go about building a roster if that were to occur?
JOHN CALIPARI: Well, you have to understand, only since I’ve been here have I not coached juniors and seniors. First of all, I would love to coach juniors — I’m coaching Reid. He and I have political talks. We talk about stuff. Like having an older player, come on. But I think what will happen is, let’s see how it unfolds. Are they trying to build the G League? Is that why they’re doing this? In other words, let’s get 40 kids to come in and only five are going to be able to be in the NBA. We’ll take the other 30 and put them in the G League.
Is that where they’re going with this, where they — again, I think when you diminish anything about education with young people, it’s a mistake for our society. I think kids should go right to the NBA. But there’s probably five or six or seven that are ready to do that, and even half of those will probably spend time in the G League.
To take 30 that can get an education, that could go on and do things if they don’t make it at basketball, big.
Now, all I can tell you, I don’t know how it will play out, but we’ll try to be first in whatever we’re doing. We took a grad student this year from a Power 5. Kind of worked for us and him, it worked. Would we take another? Yeah, if it was the right one and we thought he could help himself and us.
If I thought we were just getting a bench player, I wouldn’t do it. If I’m getting somebody who is going to be a practice player, wouldn’t do it to the kid. Whatever it is, our plan would be let’s be first, let’s be first to do it, and everybody will follow and do what we’re doing.
THE MODERATOR: John, thank you very much. Best of luck.
JOHN CALIPARI: Thanks.
FastScripts Transcript by ASAP Sports
Houston Quotes
Kelvin Sampson
Galen Robinson, Jr.
Corey Davis, Jr.
Kansas City, Missouri
THE MODERATOR: We’re going to ask Kelvin to start off with statement about his team and then we’ll go to questions.
Coach, please.
KELVIN SAMPSON: Really fun team to coach. There’s sometimes you have an inkling. Oftentimes that inkling is wrong, but you have an inkling that you might have a pretty good team. We lost so much from last year’s team that — and that spurred us into June and July of when we’re allowed to work with those kids four hours a week.
We really focused on three, four things that we value. So when the season started, I knew we were further ahead defensively than we were offensively because we didn’t get Jarreau. Jarreau didn’t play for us until mid June — excuse me, mid December, and Fabian White didn’t play until the first week in December.
We played BYU at BYU in late November. And at one point we were up 18-16 on the road, and that was — I could tell, that team has got a chance to be pretty good. BYU was really good offensively. And earlier in the season, good teams don’t know they’re good and bad teams don’t know they’re bad. Everybody is the same. That was a road game at Provo with a basically a new team. I didn’t know — didn’t know how they would react.
I wasn’t nervous or worried about that game. I was anxious. I wanted to see how we would play on the road. That’s when you know whether you have a good team or not. It’s not at home. It’s how you play on the road.
Then the thing I was most proud of with this team was not — being 16 – 2 in your conference, especially a conference as hard as ours is outstanding. But being 8 – 1 on the road, that was how I valued this team and how I evaluated it. We just became a really good team as the season progressed, and we learned how to play with each other. And that’s a tribute to Galen and Corey, Breaon, our seniors, and their ability to lead every day in practice and teach these young guys how to practice.
THE MODERATOR: First question on the aisle.
Q. Coach, I’m wondering how — the big question with Kentucky’s PJ Washington’s availability. I’m wondering what you expect there and how that factors in your planning?
KELVIN SAMPSON: Yeah, we’ve never seen Kentucky play with him or without him. We’ve never seen him play except on film. So, all the film we’re watching is him with them. I haven’t watched them without him. That doesn’t factor in with us at all.
Q. Talk to me a little bit about Corey and when you first got him from San Jac, did you know he was this complete a player?
KELVIN SAMPSON: The old “did you know” question. Like that question. “Did you know?” You get older, you hear like that, you just want to go, “You know what, we just pulled his name out of a hat.” I’m just joking, hoops. I’m just being bad.
Here’s what I knew: I knew he was a competitor. I knew he was a tough, tough nut. He was a shot maker. He had to develop — we have — we have to develop kids. That is the — I think the most important part of our program is our player development, and our assistant coaches are really, really good at that. Corey had to be developed.
Ball handling versus pressure, he had to develop a dribble game. He’s a good catch-and-shoot guy but doesn’t have much of a dribble game.
You start with the first thing we talked about, how tough he is and what a great kid he is. Unbelievable competitor every day. High character kids don’t have highs and lows. Pretty solid everyday. That’s what he is.
Q. What is your response to your name being linked to the Arkansas job, and has UH offered you a contract extension?
KELVIN SAMPSON: I’m not going to talk about my contract situation. My response to — what school was it? I was just joking (laughter). I didn’t know if you said Arizona or Arkansas or Alaska or — yeah. Been a lot of those schools over the years. I don’t really have a response to it. I don’t know what I’m supposed to respond to, you know. There’s nothing to respond to.
Q. I’ve read some comments from Tubby Smith just talking about what a good coaching job you’ve done. I know you guys go way back. What has that relationship meant to you in your career and life?
KELVIN SAMPSON: I first got to know Tubby when I was 21, 22 years old. I was doing my student teaching in the fall of my senior year in college, and the school that I was doing my student teaching at was Upchurch Junior High School.
Tubby was the head basketball coach at Rafert High School. It’s in Hoke County, North Carolina. I was born and raised in a real small town called Pembroke. Rafert is about 20 miles. But I knew who Tubby was. I didn’t know him, though.
Anytime significant — something of significance happens in my life, there’s two people to either call or text me right away. One is Tubby and the other is Rick Barnes. Rick Barnes — Rick was Lenoir Rhyne College when I was at UNC Pembroke. I think Rick was a sophomore when I was a freshman. Tubby was out of college when I started college, but he’s one of my best friends.
My father used to say if you have one friend, one friend in your life, you’re a rich man. Well, I’ve got a bunch, none that’s closer to me than Tubby or Rick.
Q. What’s this ride been like for you? The first time you’ve been back to a Sweet 16 since ’03 with Oklahoma. What’s it like being up here?
KELVIN SAMPSON: It’s hard to get to the Sweet 16 when you’re in the NBA (laughter). You know, you can get to the second round, the playoffs. I love the NBA. I really did. I was talking with Ian Eagle and Jim Spanarkel. They do the Brooklyn Nets games. I always saw them when we go to the Barclays or East Rutherford, wherever we were.
You know, you go to this tournament so much, but you learn never to take it for granted and I don’t. This is hard to make the tournament. I think being at this stage now looking back — and I look at guys like Mick Cronin at Cincinnati, what he’s going through a little bit of right. Now, when you’re really good, you become a little bit a victim of your success. You have to compare it to something.
Mick Cronin is not a good coach now. He is a great coach. He is a great coach. Hardest team we play every year is always Cincinnati. He loses to Iowa. Game he could have easily won and he had — he had — who was the next game? Who did Iowa lose to? Tennessee. Could have won that game.
You got to be good that day. There’s so much — there’s so much — winning and losing is so opinionated. It depends on which side of the fence you’re on. I hate to see coaches evaluated on whether they win their first game and not celebrated for making it. It’s no big deal anymore to make the tournament if you made it a lot. You almost better off going three, four years without making it than when you make it. Wow, that’s a great job ever rebuilding.
But it is. You take it for granted if you’re a fan. Sometimes administrators do. It’s hard to make this tournament. You look at all the great programs that haven’t made it the last two years, four years, five years, you wonder why, because it’s not easy. It’s a grind. Every conference is hard. I don’t know how you evaluate a conference. I’ve coached in some great conferences. I couldn’t tell you the difference in what versus the other. They’re all the same. At the top, they’re the same, the middle and the bottom. They all have those three things going for them.
Central Florida was one of the best teams we played this year and we played LSU, Oregon. Central Florida is really good. From a perception standpoint, unfortunately, people didn’t realize how good they were, not when they played us but when they played Duke. Them people gave them credit for that. That’s just the way people perceive things.
So, I have a lot of respect for the schools that make this tournament but also have a lot of respect for the schools that came a little short.
Q. John Calipari has really been singing your praises this week. Probably trying to but you up.
KELVIN SAMPSON: Are you saying he wasn’t sincere? You had me going and brought me down (laughter). Holy smokes.
Q. He talks about you like —
KELVIN SAMPSON: He’s singing your praises, but he didn’t really mean it laughter.
Q. What exactly is your relationship with him and what is the biggest challenge in playing against a John Calipari coached team?
KELVIN SAMPSON: Well, John Calipari reminds me of a good hit, no field shortstop. You guys remember Mark Belanger that used to play with the Orioles? I’m a baseball nut. Let’s say he had five, six years where he hit between 275 and 290. No matter what, he’s going to be good hit, no field. John Calipari will never get the credit from a lot of people for being a great coach.
I didn’t see Kentucky — that’s not true. I saw them play Tennessee — I can’t remember if that was college game day or not. But it was a Saturday night, and we must have played in the afternoon. I did watch that game. I was amazed at how good Kentucky was. I knew how good Tennessee was and the game wasn’t close.
I didn’t start really looking at him until after the Ohio State game. We started — that was a Sunday game, I think so Monday I started looking at him, Tuesday. Good plan. They’ve got a really good plan. That’s when you can tell how good — the influence of the coach is their plan.
We watched a little bit of the Wofford tape. I wanted to see Herro without Washington. Plays him like any other coach would. Herro is really good at running in and out of screens, high basketball IQ kid. The players, the blocks they play on. He plays them to their strength. Hagans understands how to run that offense that they run. They get the ball to the right spots and they’re really good on defense. They’ve got a great, great plan.
So, John is an excellent coach. Cal is a really good coach. Our relationship goes back a long time. He’s actually — myself, Tubby, Rick and Cal all played in the same conference at one time. Good ole NAIA District 26 back in North Carolina. Different times. We’re all — Tubby is kind of our mentor a little bit. He’s a little bit older.
Cal was at UNC Wilmington. Rick was at allowable. I was from Pembroke. We all came from kind of the same foundation, if you will. Small college kids that kind of grew up. John has always been — John has always been really smart. Knows what he wants and knows know to get it. I’ve always admired John and have a lot of respect for everything he does.
THE MODERATOR: Four more questions.
Q. Speaking of background, I don’t know if I’ve ever asked you this, what was it like going from a guard at Pembroke to a graduate assistant at the program that had just won the highest profile college basketball game of all time?
KELVIN SAMPSON: Your first instinct is to ask for autographs. I didn’t know Magic was Magic then. They either called him Earvin or EJ. God, was — I was afraid of him. I was so intimidated by that man. I was in over my head. Small town kid, dad was a high school coach, mother was a nurse. I had a twin sister, older sister, younger sister, just lived like anybody else.
All of a sudden I go from an NAIA school to Michigan State. I remember one of my first — can’t remember the kinesiology or physiology class. They made everybody stand up and say what you’re from. This was a night class and kids were saying — undergrad, right, all graduate students. Some kids were saying Notre Dame, Paulson College, Michigan, Michigan State, lot of Michigan State. Different undergrads in the Big Ten. I stand up and I say Pembroke State. Nobody looked at the other guys. They all looked at me. Where is this guy from? Pembroke State, what is that?
I was in awe of the whole thing. I got lucky in that Jud liked me and he always did. Up until when Jud died, I don’t think there was a month he and I didn’t talk. When he retired and he moved to Spokane, which was one of the classiest things you could do. He would call me and say, “Kel, good news, bad news. Good news is I saw your game last night. Bad news is I saw your game last night. Who is recruiting your guards?” (Laughter).
I said Jud — but I can give you a ton of those things, but whether it’s Tom Izzo or Mike Dean. He’s had — had such an impact on so many guy’s lives. That’s what Michigan State meant for me was — biggest thing was the first two jobs I got was because of Jud. He got me both jobs, assistant at Montana Tech and the head coaching job at Washington State. Jud, his first year out of high school, the first college he went to was Montana Tech. Until Jud died, he always gave them a thousand dollars a year for their booster club. That’s the way he was. Every year wrote a check for a thousand dollars.
Then Washington State — he graduated from Washington state, assistant there for Marv Harshman. When they had a guy that I was working for left to go to Nevada, Reno, because he thought he could get to the tournament easier and he was right. Washington State was the toughest job in the PAC-10 at the time. And Jud just called him and said — told him who to hire, so that was Jud. That was the impact he had on me.
Q. Your experience taking teams deep into the tournament has great value. How about your veteran guys who have been in this tournament now playing with success the last two years, how does that increase the value?
KELVIN SAMPSON: Yeah, that’s a good question. I don’t know if my experience necessarily helps. These are all big games. Every team here plays big games. We had to play at Cincinnati on senior night. That’s a big game at Oklahoma State, at BYU. We played LSU at home. You play so many big games during the course of the year, these are magnified because of this and when the kids walk in they see everything.
But I think when the game starts, I think the culture that you built in your program, if it’s strong culture, if it’s strong enough, those kids will lean on that. That becomes who our team is, who our program is, and ultimately becomes who they are.
But Galen and Corey, their leadership is critical to this team. We wouldn’t have the success that we have if it were not for Corey and Galen’s leadership. Our team, we’re all blessed to have those two kids.
THE MODERATOR: In the back.
Q. You mentioned you were out of the game for awhile in the NBA. Since you come back, have you seen any differences in the game? There’s a bunch of this stuff going on that FBI investigations and shoe things, does that stuff change or was that stuff going on back when were you there or just people seeing the underbelly of the game?
KELVIN SAMPSON: Whether it was going on or not, we’d all be naive to think it was not. The difference is wiretaps. What if they didn’t have the wiretaps now? Would we know? I’m assuming that stuff has been going on — you hear about it. The game will survive obviously in time, but it certainly puts a tarnish on it.
THE MODERATOR: Final question.
Q. Your defensive numbers are really, really good. I’m wondering, why is that, what elements go into that how well are you guys defending?
KELVIN SAMPSON: We certainly work at it. Just because you work at it doesn’t mean you’re going to be good at it. Everything that we do in our program — you know, we don’t have a great offensive team. Last year we were — last year’s team was better offensively. Last year’s team was ranked in the top 12, 13 in the nation defensively, too. Defensive field goal efficiency.
This team blocks shots a little bit better, a little bit longer and athletic. Little more athletic off the bench. None of our guys individual’s numbers will look good. I think our leading rebounders our 6-3 guard. But don’t get fooled by that. None of our guys play — our best rebounders some nights only played five minutes, only play eight minutes.
Like Georgia State the other night, the way they played, five guys were behind the 3-point line. You’ve taken away two guys’ playing time. Chris Harris and Brison Gresham. Chris is 6-10, 250. Brison is about 6-9, 230. They’re better playing the guys that post up. They don’t guard fives that play behind the 3-point line. I think our aggregate numbers will be good rebounding. We’re a good rebounding team. We’re a good defensive team.
Defense is just guarding a series of actions. What actions are we guarding? Is it a pick and roll team, is it a pin down team or screen down team? Are they a motion team? What is their primary offense? Your kids’ ability to stay disciplined during the course of whatever action it is that the shot clock, we really work at that.
My assistant coaches do a great job. I can’t tell you how great my staff is. Our kids are well prepared because my staff does a great job of being prepared for them. So, it’s a combination of a lot of things.
THE MODERATOR: Thank you, Coach. Best of luck.
KELVIN SAMPSON: Thank you.
THE MODERATOR: Student-athletes, the Houston Cougars are up next, Corey Davis, Jr., Galen Robinson, Jr. Straight to questions for the third seed in Midwest Regional.
Q. Corey, you’ve had an interesting journey to get to this point with some injury early in your career, and I understand that you thought about actually quitting the game at one point. Could you just kind of discuss what this means to get to the Sweet 16 here after what you’ve been through in?
COREY DAVIS, JR.: Honestly just means everything. I mean, just how hard I worked to get here, everything I’ve been through to get here. The process that I took, I mean, it just led me to this point. I went through everything for a reason and I’m just blessed to be here, honestly.
Q. For either of you, have any of the guys from Phi Slamma Jamma talked to you guys at all this season, has there much contact there?
GALEN ROBINSON, JR.: They came to a lot of the home games. They’ll say some quick — Clyde Drexler told me I need to get some meat on my bones. You know, I remember that. But for the most part, just friendly conversation.
Q. Just curious how you guys are preparing for Kentucky with PJ Washington or without and how you’re going about that?
COREY DAVIS, JR.: Honestly, we’re just — we’re scouting them as a whole. If PJ plays — we know his tendencies. We know what he likes to do as an individual. So I mean, it doesn’t really affect our game. We’re just focusing on the team as a whole and what we’re going to do.
GALEN ROBINSON, JR.: We’re definitely anticipating that he’s playing. We’re preparing like he’s a starting 4 man.
Q. Follow-up to that question. As competitors, you guys probably do hope that he plays, right?
GALEN ROBINSON, JR.: Me personally, it don’t matter. We still have to play Kentucky. We still have to try our hardest to win the basketball game. If he plays, same treatment.
COREY DAVIS, JR.: Me as a basketball player, you don’t really want to be playing a team that’s not at their full health. Giving them any ammunition if they do lose to have a reason that you beat them or whatever. If they have a full team, it makes it more fun, more entertaining.
Q. One of your teammates I spoke to said your coach is telling you, you have to be 8 points better than Kentucky to win. I was hoping could you expand on that.
COREY DAVIS, JR.: Honestly, we just — what he basically meant is we have to play with a chip on our shoulder. We know we’re coming into the game as underdogs. We have to play like our lives are depending on it. We have a lot we’re playing for. We just love this group we’re with. We have to come in and just buy into the entire game for 40 minutes.
GALEN ROBINSON, JR.: I think he related that to the adversity we’re going to face. Definitely going to have more fans than us here. You know, everything is going to be — yeah, we’re definitely the underdog. We have to have a chip on our shoulder and play with our hearts.
THE MODERATOR: Anything else for the gentlemen from Houston?
Okay. Thank you very much. Best of luck tomorrow.
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